Comments on: Can I have a receipt for that? http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/ Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:22:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: irry http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-24716 irry Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:01:38 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-eceipt-for-that/#comment-24716 It would be mistaken to see this as exclusive to Policy Exchange. Truth is many think-tanks are at best little more than well-informed pressure groups or an extension of of PR firms. Here's an example by the former Communications Director of the then Blairite Foreign Policy Centre were producing content with the aim of undermining Vladimir Putin:- Rob Blackhurst finds that London's think-tanks, enslaved by corporate sponsors, no longer have a significant influence on the political parties http://www.newstatesman.com/200501310024<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24716','irry'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24716','irry','It would be mistaken to see this as exclusive to Policy Exchange. Truth is many think-tanks are at best little more than well-informed pressure groups or an extension of of PR firms. Here\'s an example by the former Communications Director of the then Blairite Foreign Policy Centre were producing content with the aim of undermining Vladimir Putin:-\r\n\r\nRob Blackhurst finds that London\'s think-tanks, enslaved by corporate sponsors, no longer have a significant influence on the political parties\r\nhttp:\/\/www.newstatesman.com\/200501310024'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It would be mistaken to see this as exclusive to Policy Exchange. Truth is many think-tanks are at best little more than well-informed pressure groups or an extension of of PR firms. Here’s an example by the former Communications Director of the then Blairite Foreign Policy Centre were producing content with the aim of undermining Vladimir Putin:-

Rob Blackhurst finds that London’s think-tanks, enslaved by corporate sponsors, no longer have a significant influence on the political parties
http://www.newstatesman.com/200501310024

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]]> By: Newsnight versus Policy Exchange « pixelisation http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-24703 Newsnight versus Policy Exchange « pixelisation Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:40:14 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-eceipt-for-that/#comment-24703 [...] Persian literature) [1, 2]. Another academic blogger at Remarks and culture had similar criticisms. Ministry of Truth, Obsolete [1, 2] and Brian Whitaker contribute with some analysis of their own. MacEoin’s own [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24703','Newsnight versus Policy Exchange « pixelisation'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24703','Newsnight versus Policy Exchange « pixelisation','[...] Persian literature) [1, 2]. Another academic blogger at Remarks and culture had similar criticisms. Ministry of Truth, Obsolete [1, 2] and Brian Whitaker contribute with some analysis of their own. MacEoin’s own [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] Persian literature) [1, 2]. Another academic blogger at Remarks and culture had similar criticisms. Ministry of Truth, Obsolete [1, 2] and Brian Whitaker contribute with some analysis of their own. MacEoin’s own [...]
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]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-24702 Chris Paul Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:37:46 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-eceipt-for-that/#comment-24702 Tom Griffin's pages on the Godson clan are recommended. Will be blogging about this later. I too have read the report. The mosque selecting protocol is shocking - there isn't one! And even the number of mosques varies from nearly a hundred to over a hundred. The pamphlet is also fairer in terms of the link between mosques and any booksellers on or near the premises. Godson is bigged up as an inspiration in acknowledgements, as in some other PEx items, but it is interesting to note that his only pamphlet in his own name is about Routemaster buses.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24702','Chris Paul'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24702','Chris Paul','Tom Griffin\'s pages on the Godson clan are recommended. Will be blogging about this later. I too have read the report. The mosque selecting protocol is shocking - there isn\'t one! And even the number of mosques varies from nearly a hundred to over a hundred. The pamphlet is also fairer in terms of the link between mosques and any booksellers on or near the premises.\r\n\r\nGodson is bigged up as an inspiration in acknowledgements, as in some other PEx items, but it is interesting to note that his only pamphlet in his own name is about Routemaster buses.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Tom Griffin’s pages on the Godson clan are recommended. Will be blogging about this later. I too have read the report. The mosque selecting protocol is shocking – there isn’t one! And even the number of mosques varies from nearly a hundred to over a hundred. The pamphlet is also fairer in terms of the link between mosques and any booksellers on or near the premises.

Godson is bigged up as an inspiration in acknowledgements, as in some other PEx items, but it is interesting to note that his only pamphlet in his own name is about Routemaster buses.

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]]> By: Tom Griffin http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-24701 Tom Griffin Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:20:03 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-eceipt-for-that/#comment-24701 I hate to say I told you so.. http://www.spinwatch.org/content/view/4309/8/ OK, I don't really.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24701','Tom Griffin'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24701','Tom Griffin','I hate to say I told you so..\r\nhttp:\/\/www.spinwatch.org\/content\/view\/4309\/8\/\r\nOK, I don\'t really.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I hate to say I told you so..
http://www.spinwatch.org/content/view/4309/8/
OK, I don’t really.
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]]> By: Lee Griffin http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-24700 Lee Griffin Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:17:57 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-eceipt-for-that/#comment-24700 It was enlightening to watch the program and see just how awkward the representative for Policy Exchange was. And I don't even want to begin to count the amount of times he contradicted himself within the space of a minute at one point. All in all very bad form if it is true, and certainly the style of rebutting these claims didn't make you feel Newsnight was making anything up, especially when trying to justify the report in the event of it being based on fraudulent "evidence" on the basis, and I paraphrase, that "we know they sell this stuff either way this report goes though don't we?"<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24700','Lee Griffin'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24700','Lee Griffin','It was enlightening to watch the program and see just how awkward the representative for Policy Exchange was. And I don\'t even want to begin to count the amount of times he contradicted himself within the space of a minute at one point.\r\n\r\nAll in all very bad form if it is true, and certainly the style of rebutting these claims didn\'t make you feel Newsnight was making anything up, especially when trying to justify the report in the event of it being based on fraudulent \"evidence\" on the basis, and I paraphrase, that \"we know they sell this stuff either way this report goes though don\'t we?\"'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It was enlightening to watch the program and see just how awkward the representative for Policy Exchange was. And I don’t even want to begin to count the amount of times he contradicted himself within the space of a minute at one point.

All in all very bad form if it is true, and certainly the style of rebutting these claims didn’t make you feel Newsnight was making anything up, especially when trying to justify the report in the event of it being based on fraudulent “evidence” on the basis, and I paraphrase, that “we know they sell this stuff either way this report goes though don’t we?”

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]]> By: Surreptitious Evil http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-24699 Surreptitious Evil Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:44:45 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-eceipt-for-that/#comment-24699 I actually read the report (advice: don't) and, despite being the sort of evil right-wing cretin that should love this sort of thing, I found the endless repeating of extracts from the same utterly dull religious texts (and, yes, fundamentalist Christian texts are even duller) really pointless. Religious texts are available in mosque. Wow. Some religious texts contain 'difficult material' - Hosea Ch13 V16, for example: <i>Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.</i> I make no comment regarding pigs and monkeys.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24699','Surreptitious Evil'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24699','Surreptitious Evil','I actually read the report (advice: don\'t) and, despite being the sort of evil right-wing cretin that should love this sort of thing, I found the endless repeating of extracts from the same utterly dull religious texts (and, yes, fundamentalist Christian texts are even duller) really pointless.\r\n\r\nReligious texts are available in mosque. Wow. \r\n\r\nSome religious texts contain \'difficult material\' - Hosea Ch13 V16, for example:\r\n\r\n<i>Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.<\/i>\r\n\r\nI make no comment regarding pigs and monkeys.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I actually read the report (advice: don’t) and, despite being the sort of evil right-wing cretin that should love this sort of thing, I found the endless repeating of extracts from the same utterly dull religious texts (and, yes, fundamentalist Christian texts are even duller) really pointless.

Religious texts are available in mosque. Wow.

Some religious texts contain ‘difficult material’ – Hosea Ch13 V16, for example:

Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

I make no comment regarding pigs and monkeys.

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]]> By: septicisle http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-a-receipt-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-24698 septicisle Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:52:10 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2007/12/13/can-i-have-eceipt-for-that/#comment-24698 It's utter rot that Newsnight has any sort of agenda - it featured a similar report on extremist Islamic literature found in Tower Hamlets' libraries by the Centre of Social Cohesion, which has the neo-con Douglas Murray among its patrons: http://www.septicisle.info/2007/09/hate-on-state-and-hardline-takeovers.html It's also featured a number of reports this year on Hizb-ut-Tahrir and has given Ed Husain ample coverage as well. Policy Exchange have simply been found out.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24698','septicisle'); return false;">Reply</a> | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24698','septicisle','It\'s utter rot that Newsnight has any sort of agenda - it featured a similar report on extremist Islamic literature found in Tower Hamlets\' libraries by the Centre of Social Cohesion, which has the neo-con Douglas Murray among its patrons: http:\/\/www.septicisle.info\/2007\/09\/hate-on-state-and-hardline-takeovers.html\r\n\r\nIt\'s also featured a number of reports this year on Hizb-ut-Tahrir and has given Ed Husain ample coverage as well. Policy Exchange have simply been found out.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It’s utter rot that Newsnight has any sort of agenda – it featured a similar report on extremist Islamic literature found in Tower Hamlets’ libraries by the Centre of Social Cohesion, which has the neo-con Douglas Murray among its patrons: http://www.septicisle.info/2007/09/hate-on-state-and-hardline-takeovers.html

It’s also featured a number of reports this year on Hizb-ut-Tahrir and has given Ed Husain ample coverage as well. Policy Exchange have simply been found out.

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