Beyond Reasonable Stupidity

Bookdrunk has already picked up on the latest round of smears by Nadine Dorries, the MP for Mid Narnia, which goes as follows:

There is not one NHS hospital in the UK which will carry out abortion over 16 weeks other than Kings in London and Newcastle, they will only operate in cases of extreme need, when the continuation of the pregnancy is a threat to the health of the mother.

This is why all abortions over sixteen weeks are carried out by abortion only private clinics. Some may describe that as an industry.

‘Not one’ you’ll have noticed means two but otherwise Bookdrunk explains part of the situation very nicely:

One problem with Dorries’ claim is that a large number of NHS trusts have contracts with private providers, primarily bpas (formerly the British Pregnancy Advisory Service). So an abortion being paid for under the NHS could easily take place in a bpas clinic. In fact, bpas currently provides 50% of NHS-funded abortions undertaken by specialist agencies.

There’s another reason why the NHS uses private providers for abortions taking place after 16 weeks gestation that has nothing to do with the (non) existence of an ‘abortion industry’. The vast majority of abortions taking place at or after 16 weeks are surgical abortions and one of the little quirks of NHS hospital design is that in many cases the Ob/Gyn surgical facilities are located in the same building as the hospital’s maternity ward and delivery suite. All of which makes perfect sense from a clinical point of view, as its keeps all the machines that go ping in the same location, but still its not really the kind of environment you want to be going to for an abortion. In fact, and speaking from personal experience, its not really the ideal kind of set-up you want to be arriving at, at 2am in the morning, with a partner who’s having a miscarriage at 20 weeks because while it might be an arrangement that scores 10 out of 10 for practicality, when you’re in that situation it scores precisely fuck all for sensitivity.

So, from that point of view, its makes perfect sense to let the private sector handle abortions in their nice, discreet, private clinics/hospitals purely from a ‘let’s not rub the poor sod’s face in it’ standpoint.

Elsewhere, actually on the website of the Bedford Today newspaper, Dorries is still peddling her little hoax:

Nadine Dorries MP and a prominent doctor are at odds over the use of a controversial picture on her website.

The Mid Bedfordshire Conservative has used an image which shows unborn Samuel Armas at 21 weeks’ gestation, apparently reaching out to grasp the finger of a surgeon operating on him while still inside the womb.

She is claiming its use is “correct beyond reasonable doubt”.

Can we just save a bit of time and simple have her sectioned because if she believes that then she is completely fucking deluded.

But the doctor who performed the surgery, Dr Joseph Bruner, formerly of the Vanderbilt University, Tennessee, USA, where the operation took place, has long refuted claims that the foetus clung onto his finger.

Dr Bruner said: “It has become an urban legend.

“The baby did not reach out. Samuel and his mother, Julie, were under anaesthesia and could not move. The baby was not aware of what was going on.”

Yep, that the truth as told by the doctor who actually did the op, but…

However, Mrs Dorries remains certain it was correct to use the picture to gain support for her campaign to see the upper limit at which abortion takes place, reduced from 24 to 20 weeks.

She said: “Before putting this photo up I spoke to numerous obstetricians and gynaecologists from University College Hospital, as well as US senators who used the picture as evidence in an enquiry to ban partial birth abortions.

Numerous? As in John Wyatt perhaps?

“I’m not saying that it is 100 per cent certain the photo is genuine, as doctors can always be wrong. But what I’ve put on my website is correct beyond reasonable doubt.”

Huh? The photo is genuine, its just the description of it given by the photographer who took it that’s complete and utter bullshit, hence the doctor who did the surgery assertion that this is all an urban myth.

It’s bad enough that she has to lie about this, but what makes it worse is that she can’t even manage to lie convincingly.

The picture has been used all over the world by anti-abortion campaigners since it was taken in 1999.

But Dr Bruner’s claims that the baby was anaesthetised and therefore unable to feel pain have presented Mrs Dorries with another line of argument she finds hard to believe.

She said: “The same people using the argument that Samuel was under anaesthetic so could not feel a thing are the same people who also say that abortion up to 24 weeks is acceptable because a foetus at that point cannot feel pain.

“They use whatever argument suits them at the time.”

No, we used the clinical evidence – the only one using whatever argument suits then at the time is Dorries.

While Mrs Dorris is a campaigner for the upper abortion limit to be reduced, she still considers herself to be pro-abortion.

She said: “I’m not anti-abortion, I’m not pro-life, and I’m not looking at this from a religious standpoint. I’m in favour of abortions, in favour of making them as easy and accessible as possible, as long as they are early and not being used as a form of contraception.

“That is what I am campaigning for.”

Bullshit.

I only hope that the people of Bedfordshire are not as gullible as Dorries clearly takes them for and can see her for what she is… a fucking disgrace.

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Civil Service Imagination

Oh fuck me

Six thousand specially selected civil servants descend on London today and tomorrow for three days of intense briefings before returning to their posts to become “special agents” of the cabinet secretary Sir Gus O’Donnell, with permission to “give their bosses a hard time” if they don’t push reform.

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Getting Medieval on Depression

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Or rather we need to get back to the older idiom, the one based on the mythological battle of good and evil. And here is where the Muslim idea of spiritual jihad can show us the way, or remind us

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Another Day, Another Lie

And yes, another abortion post, but as the anti-abortion lobby keeps on lying, I’m just going to have keep right on pointing out the truth.

So what have we got for today? Well it’s this article in the Telegraph which claims that:

Hundreds of children are surviving after being born within the legal limit for abortion, official figures have disclosed.

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The China Syndrome

This has to be, by a long, long distance, the stupidest comment I have read in a very, very long time:

Here’s another interesting departure. It seems a bit odd to thank China for this can-do report, endorsed so speedily by Gordon Brown, but that country’s efforts to control sensitive political information on the web have at least flagged up a key

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The Abolition of Parliament Act returns

The ever vigilant Spyblog has spotted an ‘old friend’ lurking in the bowels of the government’s draft constitutional reform bill (pdf):

It looks as if we will have to again go through all the fuss and lobbying that we saw over the wretched Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006, the previous attempt by this Labour Government to neuter Parliament by

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No one expects the British Constitution (part 1)

“Happy” Jack Straw has finally given us an overview of his proposals for ‘constitutional renewal’ – I do wish he’d lay off the ‘renewal’ thing as it only makes me think of 1976 film version of Logan’s Run – which includes one obvious crowd-pleaser:

Our view is that Parliament itself is best placed to decide what needs to be secured to

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Eternal Mendacity of the Religious Mind

There is, it seems, no limit to the utter mendacity of the religious mind when bent on self-justification, as the Catholic Archbishop of Westminster, Cormac Murphy O’Connor so neatly demonstrates:

Two months ago I was in Zimbabwe, to see for myself the desperate situation of so many people and to offer my support and solidarity. It was a deeply moving experience.

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What’s sauce for the Goose…

If Nadine Dorries can play this game then so can I:

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Nadine Dorries MP. Conservative. Mid Bedfordshire. Majority: 11,355 (for now)

Nadine has systematically lied about and misrepresented the current state of medical and scientific evidence relating to abortion in an effort to advance an unscientific and disingenuous argument in favour of restricting legal access to abortion in UK, adopting tactics that… - Continue Reading...

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Norman Baker: Stupid Boy

We’re well used to the fact that the reflexive hatred of the right wing press for anything remotely related to the European Union means is such that they’ll swallow any old load of bollocks about the supposedly pernicious effects of EU regulations on the businessman’s inalienable right to screw a profit out of the punters by any means possible:

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