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	<title>Comments on: BUGS BME Officer promotes debate with Hizb-ut-Tahrir</title>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate was in the community off campus.

When Patel as an officer sent an e-mail promoting the thing, was it promoting the professor, the organisation or the actual debate? 

Hmm. Have the intellectual side to ya? Students remember?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;25414&#039;,&#039;Student&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;25414&#039;,&#039;Student&#039;,&#039;The debate was in the community off campus.\r\n\r\nWhen Patel as an officer sent an e-mail promoting the thing, was it promoting the professor, the organisation or the actual debate? \r\n\r\nHmm. Have the intellectual side to ya? Students remember?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<p>When Patel as an officer sent an e-mail promoting the thing, was it promoting the professor, the organisation or the actual debate? </p>
<p>Hmm. Have the intellectual side to ya? Students remember?
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		<title>By: Pickled Politics &#187; Re-evaluating the &#8216;no-platform&#8217; policy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pickled Politics &#187; Re-evaluating the &#8216;no-platform&#8217; policy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] coming back to this because Unity has highlighted an instance of Birmingham University hosting a debate by the extremist Muslim organisation Hizb [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;25408&#039;,&#039;Pickled Politics &raquo; Re-evaluating the &#8216;no-platform&#8217; policy&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;25408&#039;,&#039;Pickled Politics &raquo; Re-evaluating the &#8216;no-platform&#8217; policy&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; coming back to this because Unity has highlighted an instance of Birmingham University hosting a debate by the extremist Muslim organisation Hizb &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] coming back to this because Unity has highlighted an instance of Birmingham University hosting a debate by the extremist Muslim organisation Hizb [...]
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		<title>By: Shabana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shabana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;25389. Unity said: </p>
<p>I see that AOHells customer base is showing no sign of improvement.</p>
<p>Whatâ€™s so extreme about executing apostates?</p>
<p>ok so you want to talk about the rules of Islam..why limit it to apostasy? what not discuss where there rules come from in the first place &#8211; the Quran &#8211; if you have a problem with the Quran &#8211; there is a challenge in there for you. If you meet the challenge then you can expose Islam as false. All you need to do is try to imitate 3 sentences of the Quran &#8211; using the same rules applied in the Quran of grammar. Dont know Arabic? No probs you can get some help off any one &#8211; even non Muslims Arabic speaking people. Some advice try to find some one who really really hates Islam and can also speak Arabic as they should be more then happy to help discredit Islam. Take up the challenge there is no time limit &#8211; just let the world know when your done. hey?</p>
<p>Oh, and there hasnâ€™t been a Caliphate since 1924, which makes me think that most of the Islamic world is getting on very nicely without one as thereâ€™s been no great rush to get another one going anywhere in the Middle East&#8221;</p>
<p>Getting on nicely!!! That is a tear jerker of a comment! had the issue not been so serious. Getting on Nicely &#8211; what with dictators who have been at the helm for decades? The majority of leaders in the Muslim world are despots who use the rule of force to silence any dissent from its population. Mubark of Eqypt&#8230;i mean at the time of elections he looked up any opponents and lo and he hold won a &#8216;land slide&#8217;! Another point Uzbekistan &#8211; just see who the prisons are full of..no not petty criminals but political prisoners. so many more examples to choose from but Iâ€™ll stop there and oh yeah last i checked majority of the western leader are like to rub shoulders with the likes of despots. The Only bed fellows who are getting on nicely are western leaders and dictators.</p>
<p>You got 1 point correct, the caliphate was existent till 1924 so? A survey conducted by the University of Mary land 2005  shows a woopping 70% of Muslims questioned in the majority Muslim world want the return of the caliphate. The caliphate is a complete system that deals with all aspect of society including an economy that is based upon the currency of gold and not artificial paper money &#8211; that is very unstable. It is as system for all Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Each is treated equally before the courts and the manner in which the basic needs of the people are met. Read some history by some Jews themselves and see why they escaped the Spanish inquisition in spain and sought refuge in the capital of the Calipahte
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('25403','Shabana'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('25403','Shabana','\'\'25389. Unity said: \r\n\r\nI see that AOHells customer base is showing no sign of improvement.\r\n\r\nWhat&acirc;€™s so extreme about executing apostates?\r\n\r\nok so you want to talk about the rules of Islam..why limit it to apostasy? what not discuss where there rules come from in the first place - the Quran - if you have a problem with the Quran - there is a challenge in there for you. If you meet the challenge then you can expose Islam as false. All you need to do is try to imitate 3 sentences of the Quran - using the same rules applied in the Quran of grammar. Dont know Arabic? No probs you can get some help off any one - even non Muslims Arabic speaking people. Some advice try to find some one who really really hates Islam and can also speak Arabic as they should be more then happy to help discredit Islam. Take up the challenge there is no time limit - just let the world know when your done. hey?\r\n\r\n\r\nOh, and there hasn&acirc;€™t been a Caliphate since 1924, which makes me think that most of the Islamic world is getting on very nicely without one as there&acirc;€™s been no great rush to get another one going anywhere in the Middle East\'\'\r\n\r\nGetting on nicely!!! That is a tear jerker of a comment! had the issue not been so serious. Getting on Nicely - what with dictators who have been at the helm for decades? The majority of leaders in the Muslim world are despots who use the rule of force to silence any dissent from its population. Mubark of Eqypt...i mean at the time of elections he looked up any opponents and lo and he hold won a \'land slide\'! Another point Uzbekistan - just see who the prisons are full of..no not petty criminals but political prisoners. so many more examples to choose from but I&acirc;€™ll stop there and oh yeah last i checked majority of the western leader are like to rub shoulders with the likes of despots. The Only bed fellows who are getting on nicely are western leaders and dictators.\r\n\r\nYou got 1 point correct, the caliphate was existent till 1924 so? A survey conducted by the University of Mary land 2005  shows a woopping 70% of Muslims questioned in the majority Muslim world want the return of the caliphate. The caliphate is a complete system that deals with all aspect of society including an economy that is based upon the currency of gold and not artificial paper money - that is very unstable. It is as system for all Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Each is treated equally before the courts and the manner in which the basic needs of the people are met. Read some history by some Jews themselves and see why they escaped the Spanish inquisition in spain and sought refuge in the capital of the Calipahte'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shabana</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2008/05/11/bugs-bme-officer-and-hizb-ut-tahrir/comment-page-1/#comment-25402</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;25389. Unity said: </p>
<p>I see that AOHells customer base is showing no sign of improvement.</p>
<p>Whatâ€™s so extreme about executing apostates?</p>
<p>ok so you want to talk about the rules of Islam..why limit it to apostacy? what not discuss where there rules come from inthe first place &#8211; the Quran &#8211; if you have a probelem with the Quran &#8211; there is a challenge in there for you. If you meet the challenge then you can expose Islam as false. All you need to do is try to imitate 3 sentences of the Quran &#8211; using the same rules applied in the Quran of grammer. Dont know arabic? no probs you can get some help off any one &#8211; even non mulsims arabic speaking peopel. Some advice try to find some one who really really hates Islam and can also speak arabic as they wshould be more then happy to help discreit Islam. Take up the challenge there is no time limit &#8211; jsut let the world kmno when your done. hey?</p>
<p>Oh, and there hasnâ€™t been a Caliphate since 1924, which makes me think that most of the Islamic world is getting on very nicely without one as thereâ€™s been no great rush to get another one going anywhere in the Middle East&#8221;</p>
<p>Getting on nicely!!! That is a tear jerker of a comment! had the issue not been so serious. Getting on Nicely &#8211; what with dictators who have been at the helm for decaded? The majority of leaders inthe muslim world are despots who use the rule of force to silence any dissent from its population. Mubark of Eqypt&#8230;i mean at the time of elections he looked up any opponennts and lo and he hold won a &#8216;land slide&#8217;! Another point Unzbekistan &#8211; just see who the prisons are full of..no not petty criminals but politicla prisoners. so maany many more examples to choose from but i&#8217;l stop there and oh yeah last i checked majority of the western leader are like to rub shoulders withthe likes of despots. the Only bed fellows hwo are getiing oon nicely are westersn leaders and dictators.</p>
<p>You got 1 point correct, the caliphate was existent till 1924 so? A survey conducted by the University of Mary land 2005  shows a woopping 70% of mulism questioned in the majority mulsim worl want the return of the calipate. The caliphate is a complet sysyem that deals with all aspect of society including an economy that is based upon the currency of gold and not artificial paper money &#8211; that is very unsatbable. It is as sysyem for all muslaims and non-mulsims alike. Each is tready equally before the courts and thr manner in whcih the basic needs of the peopel are met. Read some history by soem Jews themselves ans see why they escaped the spanish inquisition in spain and sought refuge in the capital of the Calipahte.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('25402','Shabana'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('25402','Shabana','\'\'25389. Unity said: \r\n\r\nI see that AOHells customer base is showing no sign of improvement.\r\n\r\nWhat&acirc;€™s so extreme about executing apostates?\r\n\r\nok so you want to talk about the rules of Islam..why limit it to apostacy? what not discuss where there rules come from inthe first place - the Quran - if you have a probelem with the Quran - there is a challenge in there for you. If you meet the challenge then you can expose Islam as false. All you need to do is try to imitate 3 sentences of the Quran - using the same rules applied in the Quran of grammer. Dont know arabic? no probs you can get some help off any one - even non mulsims arabic speaking peopel. Some advice try to find some one who really really hates Islam and can also speak arabic as they wshould be more then happy to help discreit Islam. Take up the challenge there is no time limit - jsut let the world kmno when your done. hey?\r\n\r\n\r\nOh, and there hasn&acirc;€™t been a Caliphate since 1924, which makes me think that most of the Islamic world is getting on very nicely without one as there&acirc;€™s been no great rush to get another one going anywhere in the Middle East\'\'\r\n\r\nGetting on nicely!!! That is a tear jerker of a comment! had the issue not been so serious. Getting on Nicely - what with dictators who have been at the helm for decaded? The majority of leaders inthe muslim world are despots who use the rule of force to silence any dissent from its population. Mubark of Eqypt...i mean at the time of elections he looked up any opponennts and lo and he hold won a \'land slide\'! Another point Unzbekistan - just see who the prisons are full of..no not petty criminals but politicla prisoners. so maany many more examples to choose from but i\'l stop there and oh yeah last i checked majority of the western leader are like to rub shoulders withthe likes of despots. the Only bed fellows hwo are getiing oon nicely are westersn leaders and dictators.\r\n\r\nYou got 1 point correct, the caliphate was existent till 1924 so? A survey conducted by the University of Mary land 2005  shows a woopping 70% of mulism questioned in the majority mulsim worl want the return of the calipate. The caliphate is a complet sysyem that deals with all aspect of society including an economy that is based upon the currency of gold and not artificial paper money - that is very unsatbable. It is as sysyem for all muslaims and non-mulsims alike. Each is tready equally before the courts and thr manner in whcih the basic needs of the peopel are met. Read some history by soem Jews themselves ans see why they escaped the spanish inquisition in spain and sought refuge in the capital of the Calipahte.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Unity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that AOHells customer base is showing no sign of improvement.

What&#039;s so extreme about executing apostates?

Oh, and there hasn&#039;t been a Caliphate since 1924, which makes me think that most of the Islamic world is getting on very nicely without one as there&#039;s been no great rush to get another one going anywhere in the Middle East.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;25389&#039;,&#039;Unity&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;25389&#039;,&#039;Unity&#039;,&#039;I see that AOHells customer base is showing no sign of improvement.\r\n\r\nWhat\&#039;s so extreme about executing apostates?\r\n\r\nOh, and there hasn\&#039;t been a Caliphate since 1924, which makes me think that most of the Islamic world is getting on very nicely without one as there\&#039;s been no great rush to get another one going anywhere in the Middle East.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that AOHells customer base is showing no sign of improvement.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s so extreme about executing apostates?</p>
<p>Oh, and there hasn&#8217;t been a Caliphate since 1924, which makes me think that most of the Islamic world is getting on very nicely without one as there&#8217;s been no great rush to get another one going anywhere in the Middle East.
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		<title>By: Shabana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shabana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25360. asquith said: </p>
<p>Islam is a load of xxxxxxx, same as Christianity. I donâ€™t know why anyone says it. Of course secularism is right. We should stamp these twats out now.</p>
<p>May be the debate was for people like you &#8211; if you have such conviction about secularism why not join inthe debate and make a satand for it? I admire Hizb ut tahrir for bringing on the debate &#8211; seems as though they have mothing to hide and can take on debate with confidence.</p>
<p>As fo the term &#8216;extremist&#8217; &#8211; What is so extrem about Hizb ut tahrir when it calls for the removal of western forces in the Muslim world? britian is actaully proud of the like sof Queen Boudicia whose statue is in Hide park &#8211; she tried to fight off the Roman occuaption in Briatin. The Brits alos help the french when German forces were getting to close for comfort &#8211; i am sure nobody would say that such action were &#8216;extreme&#8217;. </p>
<p>What is so extreme about a group of peopl who have different sets of belief to secularists? So what they have their own penal system &#8211; so does Cuba, China&#8230;US..UK so what they believe in the segregation of the sexes, so what they would enure under the Calipahte that all citizens, non-mulims and muslims will be afforded food, shelter and clothing and will not be subject to harsh taxation Such as VAT, thats slapped on basic goods an hits every person in society including the poor no will they be at the mercy of corportions who will privitise resources and charge increasing prices for them such as gas  and oil  so preventing the deaths of thousands of the elderly who have to choose between food or heat. So what the the Caliphate will not allow the explotation of women  &#8211; via advertising and the sex industty there by chapening her stauts as mere a sexual onject. Look if the muslim want their own penal system in their own land, if they believe in Islam let them be &#8211; that is not extreme but just differnet. It is actually worrying that many secularists will now even deny a differnet opinion &#8211; that donesnt sound very tolerant at all. Shame.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('25388','Shabana'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('25388','Shabana','25360. asquith said: \r\n\r\nIslam is a load of xxxxxxx, same as Christianity. I don&acirc;€™t know why anyone says it. Of course secularism is right. We should stamp these twats out now.\r\n\r\nMay be the debate was for people like you - if you have such conviction about secularism why not join inthe debate and make a satand for it? I admire Hizb ut tahrir for bringing on the debate - seems as though they have mothing to hide and can take on debate with confidence.\r\n\r\nAs fo the term \'extremist\' - What is so extrem about Hizb ut tahrir when it calls for the removal of western forces in the Muslim world? britian is actaully proud of the like sof Queen Boudicia whose statue is in Hide park - she tried to fight off the Roman occuaption in Briatin. The Brits alos help the french when German forces were getting to close for comfort - i am sure nobody would say that such action were \'extreme\'. \r\n\r\nWhat is so extreme about a group of peopl who have different sets of belief to secularists? So what they have their own penal system - so does Cuba, China...US..UK so what they believe in the segregation of the sexes, so what they would enure under the Calipahte that all citizens, non-mulims and muslims will be afforded food, shelter and clothing and will not be subject to harsh taxation Such as VAT, thats slapped on basic goods an hits every person in society including the poor no will they be at the mercy of corportions who will privitise resources and charge increasing prices for them such as gas  and oil  so preventing the deaths of thousands of the elderly who have to choose between food or heat. So what the the Caliphate will not allow the explotation of women  - via advertising and the sex industty there by chapening her stauts as mere a sexual onject. Look if the muslim want their own penal system in their own land, if they believe in Islam let them be - that is not extreme but just differnet. It is actually worrying that many secularists will now even deny a differnet opinion - that donesnt sound very tolerant at all. Shame.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: asquith</title>
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		<dc:creator>asquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam is a load of bollocks, same as Christianity. I don&#039;t know why anyone says it. Of course secularism is right. We should stamp these twats out now.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;25360&#039;,&#039;asquith&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;25360&#039;,&#039;asquith&#039;,&#039;Islam is a load of bollocks, same as Christianity. I don\&#039;t know why anyone says it. Of course secularism is right. We should stamp these twats out now.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam is a load of bollocks, same as Christianity. I don&#8217;t know why anyone says it. Of course secularism is right. We should stamp these twats out now.
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 14:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but I would hope that you can recognise the difference between hosting a debate at a university, with a plethora of staff and students to challenge and ridicule those views, and promoting a debate conducted by an extremist group (held in a community centre in an almost entirely Muslim area).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;25357&#039;,&#039;Poster.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;25357&#039;,&#039;Poster.&#039;,&#039;Yes, but I would hope that you can recognise the difference between hosting a debate at a university, with a plethora of staff and students to challenge and ridicule those views, and promoting a debate conducted by an extremist group (held in a community centre in an almost entirely Muslim area).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but I would hope that you can recognise the difference between hosting a debate at a university, with a plethora of staff and students to challenge and ridicule those views, and promoting a debate conducted by an extremist group (held in a community centre in an almost entirely Muslim area).
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 14:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems something is lost here.  The way you confront extremists of any persuasion is by PUBLICLY showing how their beliefs are childish and illogical.  This is exactly what happened at Columbia University when the Iranian President Ahmadinejad was made to look and sound like a fool when publicly challenged on his beliefs.  Grandstanders and hatemongers love being shunned, because this gives them undue prestige and publicity.  When challenged on their views you can visibly watch them squirm.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;25356&#039;,&#039;Sam Smith&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;25356&#039;,&#039;Sam Smith&#039;,&#039;Seems something is lost here.  The way you confront extremists of any persuasion is by PUBLICLY showing how their beliefs are childish and illogical.  This is exactly what happened at Columbia University when the Iranian President Ahmadinejad was made to look and sound like a fool when publicly challenged on his beliefs.  Grandstanders and hatemongers love being shunned, because this gives them undue prestige and publicity.  When challenged on their views you can visibly watch them squirm.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems something is lost here.  The way you confront extremists of any persuasion is by PUBLICLY showing how their beliefs are childish and illogical.  This is exactly what happened at Columbia University when the Iranian President Ahmadinejad was made to look and sound like a fool when publicly challenged on his beliefs.  Grandstanders and hatemongers love being shunned, because this gives them undue prestige and publicity.  When challenged on their views you can visibly watch them squirm.
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