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	<description>VoilÃ ! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.</description>
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		<title>By: bella gerens &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again</title>
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		<dc:creator>bella gerens &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who are these drug advisers? Is it the same Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs who recommended the downgrading of ecstasy to class...? [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;28593&#039;,&#039;bella gerens &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;28593&#039;,&#039;bella gerens &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; Who are these drug advisers? Is it the same Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs who recommended the downgrading of ecstasy to class...? &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Who are these drug advisers? Is it the same Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs who recommended the downgrading of ecstasy to class&#8230;? [...]
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		<title>By: bella gerens &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Melanie Phillips loses the plot</title>
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		<dc:creator>bella gerens &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Melanie Phillips loses the plot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For substantiated claims, and a very thorough analysis of UK drug policy and the role of the Advisory Council, see Unity&#8217;s excellent piece at the Ministry of Truth. [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;28592&#039;,&#039;bella gerens &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Melanie Phillips loses the plot&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;28592&#039;,&#039;bella gerens &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Melanie Phillips loses the plot&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; For substantiated claims, and a very thorough analysis of UK drug policy and the role of the Advisory Council, see Unity&#8217;s excellent piece at the Ministry of Truth. &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For substantiated claims, and a very thorough analysis of UK drug policy and the role of the Advisory Council, see Unity&#8217;s excellent piece at the Ministry of Truth. [...]
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		<title>By: Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again &#171; bella gerens</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/01/07/making-a-complete-has-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-27840</link>
		<dc:creator>Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again &#171; bella gerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who are these drug advisers? Is it the same Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs who recommended the downgrading of ecstasy to class...? [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27840&#039;,&#039;Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again &laquo; bella gerens&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27840&#039;,&#039;Bansturbation by proxy successful &#8211; again &laquo; bella gerens&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; Who are these drug advisers? Is it the same Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs who recommended the downgrading of ecstasy to class...? &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Who are these drug advisers? Is it the same Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs who recommended the downgrading of ecstasy to class&#8230;? [...]
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/01/07/making-a-complete-has-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-27409</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting Unity. There are a couple of things I would like to ask you about, could you give or send me an email address, I can&#039;t see one on the site.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27409&#039;,&#039;Bernie&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27409&#039;,&#039;Bernie&#039;,&#039;Very interesting Unity. There are a couple of things I would like to ask you about, could you give or send me an email address, I can\&#039;t see one on the site.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting Unity. There are a couple of things I would like to ask you about, could you give or send me an email address, I can&#8217;t see one on the site.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27409','Bernie'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27409','Bernie','Very interesting Unity. There are a couple of things I would like to ask you about, could you give or send me an email address, I can\'t see one on the site.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Melanie Phillips loses the plot &#171; bella gerens</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/01/07/making-a-complete-has-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-27396</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Phillips loses the plot &#171; bella gerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For substantiated claims, and a very thorough analysis of UK drug policy and the role of the Advisory Council, see Unity&#8217;s excellent piece at the Ministry of Truth. [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27396&#039;,&#039;Melanie Phillips loses the plot &laquo; bella gerens&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27396&#039;,&#039;Melanie Phillips loses the plot &laquo; bella gerens&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; For substantiated claims, and a very thorough analysis of UK drug policy and the role of the Advisory Council, see Unity&#8217;s excellent piece at the Ministry of Truth. &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For substantiated claims, and a very thorough analysis of UK drug policy and the role of the Advisory Council, see Unity&#8217;s excellent piece at the Ministry of Truth. [...]
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		<title>By: the a&#38;e charge nurse</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/01/07/making-a-complete-has-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-27292</link>
		<dc:creator>the a&#38;e charge nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some would even go further, Pat, suggesting that the &#039;war on drugs&#039; paradigm is itself intrinsically flawed ?

We don&#039;t hear the public complaining that we are losing the war on car theft, or house burglaries, battles which are equally unwinable, but unlikely to be abandoned any time soon (even if these particular crimes continue to escalate).

Additionally if the drug market was to be legalised here it remains uncertain what the ceiling demand for heroin, say, would be - but given concerns about the grim quality of life in many parts of the UK nowadays, we may, in fact, end up requiring a network of opium dens not seen on a scale since pre-Tung China ?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27292&#039;,&#039;the a&amp;e charge nurse&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27292&#039;,&#039;the a&amp;e charge nurse&#039;,&#039;Some would even go further, Pat, suggesting that the \&#039;war on drugs\&#039; paradigm is itself intrinsically flawed ?\r\n\r\nWe don\&#039;t hear the public complaining that we are losing the war on car theft, or house burglaries, battles which are equally unwinable, but unlikely to be abandoned any time soon (even if these particular crimes continue to escalate).\r\n\r\nAdditionally if the drug market was to be legalised here it remains uncertain what the ceiling demand for heroin, say, would be - but given concerns about the grim quality of life in many parts of the UK nowadays, we may, in fact, end up requiring a network of opium dens not seen on a scale since pre-Tung China ?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some would even go further, Pat, suggesting that the &#8216;war on drugs&#8217; paradigm is itself intrinsically flawed ?</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t hear the public complaining that we are losing the war on car theft, or house burglaries, battles which are equally unwinable, but unlikely to be abandoned any time soon (even if these particular crimes continue to escalate).</p>
<p>Additionally if the drug market was to be legalised here it remains uncertain what the ceiling demand for heroin, say, would be &#8211; but given concerns about the grim quality of life in many parts of the UK nowadays, we may, in fact, end up requiring a network of opium dens not seen on a scale since pre-Tung China ?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27292','the a&amp;amp;e charge nurse'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27292','the a&amp;amp;e charge nurse','Some would even go further, Pat, suggesting that the \'war on drugs\' paradigm is itself intrinsically flawed ?\r\n\r\nWe don\'t hear the public complaining that we are losing the war on car theft, or house burglaries, battles which are equally unwinable, but unlikely to be abandoned any time soon (even if these particular crimes continue to escalate).\r\n\r\nAdditionally if the drug market was to be legalised here it remains uncertain what the ceiling demand for heroin, say, would be - but given concerns about the grim quality of life in many parts of the UK nowadays, we may, in fact, end up requiring a network of opium dens not seen on a scale since pre-Tung China ?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one point:-  some pernikerty soul is bound to bring up- if the rate of increase in heroin use you give for the sixties had continued to the present day the everyone would be a heroin user now. Someone will argue that the war on drugs has resulted in reducing the problem. Peronally I believe that everyone that wants the stuff gets it anyway and the law has nothing to do with it- but the point does need answering.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27291&#039;,&#039;Pat&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27291&#039;,&#039;Pat&#039;,&#039;Just one point:-  some pernikerty soul is bound to bring up- if the rate of increase in heroin use you give for the sixties had continued to the present day the everyone would be a heroin user now. Someone will argue that the war on drugs has resulted in reducing the problem. Peronally I believe that everyone that wants the stuff gets it anyway and the law has nothing to do with it- but the point does need answering.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one point:-  some pernikerty soul is bound to bring up- if the rate of increase in heroin use you give for the sixties had continued to the present day the everyone would be a heroin user now. Someone will argue that the war on drugs has resulted in reducing the problem. Peronally I believe that everyone that wants the stuff gets it anyway and the law has nothing to do with it- but the point does need answering.
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/01/07/making-a-complete-has-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-27288</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article and well written too

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreedomainRadio/~3/76645264/The_Drug_Wars_Part_1.MP3

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreedomainRadio/~3/76569668/The_Drug_Wars_Part_2.MP3

The Podcasts above have a great insight into the drugs war which I thought you might be interested to listen to.

Rgds&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27288&#039;,&#039;Patrick&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27288&#039;,&#039;Patrick&#039;,&#039;Excellent article and well written too\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/FreedomainRadio\/~3\/76645264\/The_Drug_Wars_Part_1.MP3\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/FreedomainRadio\/~3\/76569668\/The_Drug_Wars_Part_2.MP3\r\n\r\nThe Podcasts above have a great insight into the drugs war which I thought you might be interested to listen to.\r\n\r\nRgds&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article and well written too</p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreedomainRadio/~3/76645264/The_Drug_Wars_Part_1.MP3" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreedomainRadio/~3/76645264/The_Drug_Wars_Part_1.MP3</a></p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreedomainRadio/~3/76569668/The_Drug_Wars_Part_2.MP3" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreedomainRadio/~3/76569668/The_Drug_Wars_Part_2.MP3</a></p>
<p>The Podcasts above have a great insight into the drugs war which I thought you might be interested to listen to.</p>
<p>Rgds
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27288','Patrick'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27288','Patrick','Excellent article and well written too\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/FreedomainRadio\/~3\/76645264\/The_Drug_Wars_Part_1.MP3\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/FreedomainRadio\/~3\/76569668\/The_Drug_Wars_Part_2.MP3\r\n\r\nThe Podcasts above have a great insight into the drugs war which I thought you might be interested to listen to.\r\n\r\nRgds'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: the a&#38;e charge nurse</title>
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		<dc:creator>the a&#38;e charge nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Unity, congratulations on providing us bloggers with such an absorbing and fascinating read, I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.

I suppose my first thoughts are that if we (in the UK) have been fed disinformation on illicit drugs then I guess this process has been mirrored in many other countries as well - since negative attitudes to heroin and crack, for example, are fairly universal ? 

Incidentally if we look at heroin, its use, including the number of addicts has not just expanded dramatically in the UK but across many other markets as well - it&#039;s impossible to consider heroin use as a local problem. 

To date none of the EU countries have been willing to pursue the legalisation option, although I understand Holland has a far more relaxed approach to drugs - interestingly Amsterdam remains rife with crime ?

The legalisation question is not simply a matter of pharmicodynamics or pharmicokinetics, of course, it also involves the social meanings we attribute to drug usage as well, and since the type of market being proposed (by the pro-legalisation lobby) has never existed (in the West) it&#039;s effects, to a certain extent, at least must remain an unknown.

Dalrymple cited China as the country which historically had the highest number of opium addicts, by far, at least before Mao Tse Tung  came along and threatened to execute those that continued to use opium.
This resulted in two interesting facts:
*provide enough incentive and addicts will quickly abstain.
*Mao Tse Tung was the most effective drug worker in history (if we take abstinence as the only criteria) since the number of opium addicts plummeted after Tungs draconian edict.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27287&#039;,&#039;the a&amp;e charge nurse&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27287&#039;,&#039;the a&amp;e charge nurse&#039;,&#039;First of all, Unity, congratulations on providing us bloggers with such an absorbing and fascinating read, I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.\r\n\r\nI suppose my first thoughts are that if we (in the UK) have been fed disinformation on illicit drugs then I guess this process has been mirrored in many other countries as well - since negative attitudes to heroin and crack, for example, are fairly universal ? \r\n\r\nIncidentally if we look at heroin, its use, including the number of addicts has not just expanded dramatically in the UK but across many other markets as well - it\&#039;s impossible to consider heroin use as a local problem. \r\n\r\nTo date none of the EU countries have been willing to pursue the legalisation option, although I understand Holland has a far more relaxed approach to drugs - interestingly Amsterdam remains rife with crime ?\r\n\r\nThe legalisation question is not simply a matter of pharmicodynamics or pharmicokinetics, of course, it also involves the social meanings we attribute to drug usage as well, and since the type of market being proposed (by the pro-legalisation lobby) has never existed (in the West) it\&#039;s effects, to a certain extent, at least must remain an unknown.\r\n\r\nDalrymple cited China as the country which historically had the highest number of opium addicts, by far, at least before Mao Tse Tung  came along and threatened to execute those that continued to use opium.\r\nThis resulted in two interesting facts:\r\n*provide enough incentive and addicts will quickly abstain.\r\n*Mao Tse Tung was the most effective drug worker in history (if we take abstinence as the only criteria) since the number of opium addicts plummeted after Tungs draconian edict.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Unity, congratulations on providing us bloggers with such an absorbing and fascinating read, I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.</p>
<p>I suppose my first thoughts are that if we (in the UK) have been fed disinformation on illicit drugs then I guess this process has been mirrored in many other countries as well &#8211; since negative attitudes to heroin and crack, for example, are fairly universal ? </p>
<p>Incidentally if we look at heroin, its use, including the number of addicts has not just expanded dramatically in the UK but across many other markets as well &#8211; it&#8217;s impossible to consider heroin use as a local problem. </p>
<p>To date none of the EU countries have been willing to pursue the legalisation option, although I understand Holland has a far more relaxed approach to drugs &#8211; interestingly Amsterdam remains rife with crime ?</p>
<p>The legalisation question is not simply a matter of pharmicodynamics or pharmicokinetics, of course, it also involves the social meanings we attribute to drug usage as well, and since the type of market being proposed (by the pro-legalisation lobby) has never existed (in the West) it&#8217;s effects, to a certain extent, at least must remain an unknown.</p>
<p>Dalrymple cited China as the country which historically had the highest number of opium addicts, by far, at least before Mao Tse Tung  came along and threatened to execute those that continued to use opium.<br />
This resulted in two interesting facts:<br />
*provide enough incentive and addicts will quickly abstain.<br />
*Mao Tse Tung was the most effective drug worker in history (if we take abstinence as the only criteria) since the number of opium addicts plummeted after Tungs draconian edict.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27287','the a&amp;amp;e charge nurse'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27287','the a&amp;amp;e charge nurse','First of all, Unity, congratulations on providing us bloggers with such an absorbing and fascinating read, I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.\r\n\r\nI suppose my first thoughts are that if we (in the UK) have been fed disinformation on illicit drugs then I guess this process has been mirrored in many other countries as well - since negative attitudes to heroin and crack, for example, are fairly universal ? \r\n\r\nIncidentally if we look at heroin, its use, including the number of addicts has not just expanded dramatically in the UK but across many other markets as well - it\'s impossible to consider heroin use as a local problem. \r\n\r\nTo date none of the EU countries have been willing to pursue the legalisation option, although I understand Holland has a far more relaxed approach to drugs - interestingly Amsterdam remains rife with crime ?\r\n\r\nThe legalisation question is not simply a matter of pharmicodynamics or pharmicokinetics, of course, it also involves the social meanings we attribute to drug usage as well, and since the type of market being proposed (by the pro-legalisation lobby) has never existed (in the West) it\'s effects, to a certain extent, at least must remain an unknown.\r\n\r\nDalrymple cited China as the country which historically had the highest number of opium addicts, by far, at least before Mao Tse Tung  came along and threatened to execute those that continued to use opium.\r\nThis resulted in two interesting facts:\r\n*provide enough incentive and addicts will quickly abstain.\r\n*Mao Tse Tung was the most effective drug worker in history (if we take abstinence as the only criteria) since the number of opium addicts plummeted after Tungs draconian edict.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ruddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Ruddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two comments

It is also worth remembering the two-fold role of the Police in all this ; a)if they can make their funding authorities believe they are fighting a huge and growing (and not easily measurable) something [it used to be drugs but is now terrorism], they get more dosh no questions asked and b) running-in addicts is a lot easier than finding murderers , in the same way as they used to boost their sex-crime detection rates by hanging round toilets and catching men rather than geting involved in complicated stuff like chasing rapists . 

Bearing in mind how much guff comes direct from the States , I strongly recommend &quot;Synthetic Panics&quot; by Philip Jenkins (NY Univ. Press) which details the serial panics in that country , and how they all follow a pattern that boosts politicians and media .&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27286&#039;,&#039;Andrew Ruddle&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27286&#039;,&#039;Andrew Ruddle&#039;,&#039;Two comments\r\n\r\nIt is also worth remembering the two-fold role of the Police in all this ; a)if they can make their funding authorities believe they are fighting a huge and growing (and not easily measurable) something &#91;it used to be drugs but is now terrorism&#93;, they get more dosh no questions asked and b) running-in addicts is a lot easier than finding murderers , in the same way as they used to boost their sex-crime detection rates by hanging round toilets and catching men rather than geting involved in complicated stuff like chasing rapists . \r\n\r\nBearing in mind how much guff comes direct from the States , I strongly recommend \&quot;Synthetic Panics\&quot; by Philip Jenkins (NY Univ. Press) which details the serial panics in that country , and how they all follow a pattern that boosts politicians and media .&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments</p>
<p>It is also worth remembering the two-fold role of the Police in all this ; a)if they can make their funding authorities believe they are fighting a huge and growing (and not easily measurable) something [it used to be drugs but is now terrorism], they get more dosh no questions asked and b) running-in addicts is a lot easier than finding murderers , in the same way as they used to boost their sex-crime detection rates by hanging round toilets and catching men rather than geting involved in complicated stuff like chasing rapists . </p>
<p>Bearing in mind how much guff comes direct from the States , I strongly recommend &#8220;Synthetic Panics&#8221; by Philip Jenkins (NY Univ. Press) which details the serial panics in that country , and how they all follow a pattern that boosts politicians and media .
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		<title>By: Tomrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting and erudite post Unity.

Speaking of &quot;dosage&quot; here is an interesting anecdote; Paracetamol kills approximately 200 people each year frmo overdoses; the overdose limit is scarily quite low and considering how many products now contain it you can imagine quite common to make the mistake, though intentional overdoses are common too - dont understand why though; it causes severe organ failure and a very painful death.

Personally I no longer touch drugs; to me its just blank escapism. I&#039;m just fed up with the monopoly with which the state continues to hold us all to in this; as a means of control and keeping us all pumped up with fear of the &quot;reefer madness&quot; it is very effective - and we know its a question of control because if the state wanted to sink drug-fuelled anarchy overnight all they would need to do would be to make it legal and conduct the kind of studies you are able to with current drugs like Tobacco or Alcohol.

No chance of that anytime soon though is there?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27285&#039;,&#039;Tomrat&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27285&#039;,&#039;Tomrat&#039;,&#039;A very interesting and erudite post Unity.\r\n\r\nSpeaking of \&quot;dosage\&quot; here is an interesting anecdote; Paracetamol kills approximately 200 people each year frmo overdoses; the overdose limit is scarily quite low and considering how many products now contain it you can imagine quite common to make the mistake, though intentional overdoses are common too - dont understand why though; it causes severe organ failure and a very painful death.\r\n\r\nPersonally I no longer touch drugs; to me its just blank escapism. I\&#039;m just fed up with the monopoly with which the state continues to hold us all to in this; as a means of control and keeping us all pumped up with fear of the \&quot;reefer madness\&quot; it is very effective - and we know its a question of control because if the state wanted to sink drug-fuelled anarchy overnight all they would need to do would be to make it legal and conduct the kind of studies you are able to with current drugs like Tobacco or Alcohol.\r\n\r\nNo chance of that anytime soon though is there?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting and erudite post Unity.</p>
<p>Speaking of &#8220;dosage&#8221; here is an interesting anecdote; Paracetamol kills approximately 200 people each year frmo overdoses; the overdose limit is scarily quite low and considering how many products now contain it you can imagine quite common to make the mistake, though intentional overdoses are common too &#8211; dont understand why though; it causes severe organ failure and a very painful death.</p>
<p>Personally I no longer touch drugs; to me its just blank escapism. I&#8217;m just fed up with the monopoly with which the state continues to hold us all to in this; as a means of control and keeping us all pumped up with fear of the &#8220;reefer madness&#8221; it is very effective &#8211; and we know its a question of control because if the state wanted to sink drug-fuelled anarchy overnight all they would need to do would be to make it legal and conduct the kind of studies you are able to with current drugs like Tobacco or Alcohol.</p>
<p>No chance of that anytime soon though is there?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27285','Tomrat'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27285','Tomrat','A very interesting and erudite post Unity.\r\n\r\nSpeaking of \&quot;dosage\&quot; here is an interesting anecdote; Paracetamol kills approximately 200 people each year frmo overdoses; the overdose limit is scarily quite low and considering how many products now contain it you can imagine quite common to make the mistake, though intentional overdoses are common too - dont understand why though; it causes severe organ failure and a very painful death.\r\n\r\nPersonally I no longer touch drugs; to me its just blank escapism. I\'m just fed up with the monopoly with which the state continues to hold us all to in this; as a means of control and keeping us all pumped up with fear of the \&quot;reefer madness\&quot; it is very effective - and we know its a question of control because if the state wanted to sink drug-fuelled anarchy overnight all they would need to do would be to make it legal and conduct the kind of studies you are able to with current drugs like Tobacco or Alcohol.\r\n\r\nNo chance of that anytime soon though is there?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/01/07/making-a-complete-has-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-27278</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly 15,000 words in a most interesting article. Thank you for your considerable effort.</p>
<p>I beleive the article would be improved by the use of shorter sentences.  Thus:-</p>
<p>If youâ€™re a regular visitor to the Ministry then youâ€™ll already know what to expect.   If not, grab yourself a hot cup of coffee (and maybe even a sandwich) and settle down.  This is going to be one of those posts where I really go for it.</p>
<p>This may well prove to be the longest post Iâ€™ve ever written at the Ministry.   Iâ€™m going to take a crack a demonstrating precisely where and how the United Kingdom government has been systematically and consistently lying to its people for over forty years.  I will show how this lie has been sustained with press support and collusion, exactly how this has been done and the tricks by which the press promote this lie. And without the vast majority of people ever becoming aware that theyâ€™re being lied to and manipulated.</p>
<p>So, let me continue with the general theme started in my first post of the new year (Different Year, Same Old Shit).  Courtesy of the Home Office, here is yet another futile exercise in evidence-free policy-making:</p>
<p>â€œ&#8230;..&#8221;[The Independent â€“ xx January 2009]</p>
<p>Admittedly, this is hardly an innovative story, as the reference to last yearâ€™s row over the classification of cannabis indicates. Most of what passes for official policy on drugs, not just in the UK but globally, bears little or no relationship to the actual health risks associated with particular drugs.  Supplying adults with tobacco (an estimated 500,000+ deaths annually) and alcohol (200,000+ deaths a year) is perfectly legal.  Those two drugs play some part in the largest number of deaths on a year-in, year-out basis. Supplying ecstasy (fewer than 50 deaths a year) carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. </p>
<p>Put in those terms and comparing the annual number of deaths associated with particular drug (legal and non-legal) itâ€™s impossible not to think that thereâ€™s something perverse about the system.  That system generates billions of pounds in sales (and tax) revenues from the use of drugs which actively contribute to hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.  At the same time, it outlaws other drugs which, at most, account for 30-50 deaths a year. It just doesnâ€™t seem rational &#8211; and it isnâ€™t.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27278','Will'); return false;">Reply</a>  | <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27278','Will','Nearly 15,000 words in a most interesting article. Thank you for your considerable effort.\r\n\r\nI beleive the article would be improved by the use of shorter sentences.  Thus:-\r\n\r\nIf you&acirc;€™re a regular visitor to the Ministry then you&acirc;€™ll already know what to expect.   If not, grab yourself a hot cup of coffee (and maybe even a sandwich) and settle down.  This is going to be one of those posts where I really go for it.\r\n\r\nThis may well prove to be the longest post I&acirc;€™ve ever written at the Ministry.   I&acirc;€™m going to take a crack a demonstrating precisely where and how the United Kingdom government has been systematically and consistently lying to its people for over forty years.  I will show how this lie has been sustained with press support and collusion, exactly how this has been done and the tricks by which the press promote this lie. And without the vast majority of people ever becoming aware that they&acirc;€™re being lied to and manipulated.\r\n\r\nSo, let me continue with the general theme started in my first post of the new year (Different Year, Same Old Shit).  Courtesy of the Home Office, here is yet another futile exercise in evidence-free policy-making:\r\n\r\n&acirc;€œ.....\&quot;&amp;#91;The Independent &acirc;€“ xx January 2009&amp;#93;\r\n\r\nAdmittedly, this is hardly an innovative story, as the reference to last year&acirc;€™s row over the classification of cannabis indicates. Most of what passes for official policy on drugs, not just in the UK but globally, bears little or no relationship to the actual health risks associated with particular drugs.  Supplying adults with tobacco (an estimated 500,000+ deaths annually) and alcohol (200,000+ deaths a year) is perfectly legal.  Those two drugs play some part in the largest number of deaths on a year-in, year-out basis. Supplying ecstasy (fewer than 50 deaths a year) carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. \r\n\r\nPut in those terms and comparing the annual number of deaths associated with particular drug (legal and non-legal) it&acirc;€™s impossible not to think that there&acirc;€™s something perverse about the system.  That system generates billions of pounds in sales (and tax) revenues from the use of drugs which actively contribute to hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.  At the same time, it outlaws other drugs which, at most, account for 30-50 deaths a year. It just doesn&acirc;€™t seem rational - and it isn&acirc;€™t.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: septicisle</title>
		<link>http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/01/07/making-a-complete-has-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-27275</link>
		<dc:creator>septicisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb as always, and I didn&#039;t know about MPPP at all, which is fascinating.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27275&#039;,&#039;septicisle&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27275&#039;,&#039;septicisle&#039;,&#039;Superb as always, and I didn\&#039;t know about MPPP at all, which is fascinating.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb as always, and I didn&#8217;t know about MPPP at all, which is fascinating.
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		<title>By: marksany</title>
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		<dc:creator>marksany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great article, thanks for writing and posting it. 

You have a ton of good material on your blog, are you planning to make a book out of it? I&#039;d buy it, I bought Ben Goldacre&#039;s and that was a good read.

cheers,
marksany&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27274&#039;,&#039;marksany&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27274&#039;,&#039;marksany&#039;,&#039;That\&#039;s a great article, thanks for writing and posting it. \r\n\r\nYou have a ton of good material on your blog, are you planning to make a book out of it? I\&#039;d buy it, I bought Ben Goldacre\&#039;s and that was a good read.\r\n\r\ncheers,\r\nmarksany&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great article, thanks for writing and posting it. </p>
<p>You have a ton of good material on your blog, are you planning to make a book out of it? I&#8217;d buy it, I bought Ben Goldacre&#8217;s and that was a good read.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
marksany
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastic article which nails the problem with the current approach. I remain hopeful that eventually the real issues around drug use in this country can be debated sensibly and this sort of blog post can only help with this.

Thanks MOT!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27272&#039;,&#039;Mark&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27272&#039;,&#039;Mark&#039;,&#039;This is a fantastic article which nails the problem with the current approach. I remain hopeful that eventually the real issues around drug use in this country can be debated sensibly and this sort of blog post can only help with this.\r\n\r\nThanks MOT!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic article which nails the problem with the current approach. I remain hopeful that eventually the real issues around drug use in this country can be debated sensibly and this sort of blog post can only help with this.</p>
<p>Thanks MOT!
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		<title>By: carrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>carrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m only half way through, but i have to say this is one of the funniest, most impressive blog posts i have ever read. really brilliant.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27271&#039;,&#039;carrion&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27271&#039;,&#039;carrion&#039;,&#039;i\&#039;m only half way through, but i have to say this is one of the funniest, most impressive blog posts i have ever read. really brilliant.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m only half way through, but i have to say this is one of the funniest, most impressive blog posts i have ever read. really brilliant.
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		<title>By: Beerwulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beerwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate giving contentless comments, but this was a very interesting article which obviously took a significant amount of time and effort to put together, and I&#039;d like to thank you for it.
Thanks.

So, we&#039;ve the media selling moral outrage - good for sales, the politicians playing to the gallery and thereby generating good press for themselves, and us fools believing what they tell us. How do we get out of this mess? Maybe the credit crisis will sink a few newspapers...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27270&#039;,&#039;Beerwulf&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27270&#039;,&#039;Beerwulf&#039;,&#039;I hate giving contentless comments, but this was a very interesting article which obviously took a significant amount of time and effort to put together, and I\&#039;d like to thank you for it.\r\nThanks.\r\n\r\nSo, we\&#039;ve the media selling moral outrage - good for sales, the politicians playing to the gallery and thereby generating good press for themselves, and us fools believing what they tell us. How do we get out of this mess? Maybe the credit crisis will sink a few newspapers...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate giving contentless comments, but this was a very interesting article which obviously took a significant amount of time and effort to put together, and I&#8217;d like to thank you for it.<br />
Thanks.</p>
<p>So, we&#8217;ve the media selling moral outrage &#8211; good for sales, the politicians playing to the gallery and thereby generating good press for themselves, and us fools believing what they tell us. How do we get out of this mess? Maybe the credit crisis will sink a few newspapers&#8230;
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